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Discussion in Admin Abuse started by Supraman, Jun 23, 2013

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  1. Jun 23, 2013
    So per his request, I come here to report the admin "Orange". I have been regularly playing on the pF servers for some time now and this evening was no exception. A few minutes ago I was playing on the ZM server when I said "igger", miss-typing "Orange"s tag, which was supposed to be "Tigger" to be followed by a question of what does that mean. I pressed the shift key and miss-pressed T. Immediately without warning, I was kicked from the server with "don't push it". I joined back to ask why was I kicked, obviously assuming that the admin thought I was trying to say a racial slur but wanting a further explanation, to which I got "take it to the forums". I politely explained to the admin that "I do not have time/desire to visit the forums, I come here to play", to which I got "silenced". Upon rejoining I got banned.

    Is this how pF community treats their players? Together with SabresRock16 I have run the C.S.I community for 2 years including ZM/ZE and various other servers and we've never had an admin as eager to kick/ban as I noticed Orange is. I have been playing CS since 2000 and I can honestly say that this keyboard warrior should under go a through evaluation of his manners and maturity.

    I'm not here to bash on pF staff or admins, in fact I believe most do a great job in keeping the community under control and players happy, but when you have an admin that "trips" about a question related to his own name and bans players for it, that raises some major concerns.

    I hope this will be my last visit to the pF forums to report an admin.
  2. Feb 8, 2013
    You don't have to lie through the walls and say you were trying to spell my name tag. I don't find it a coincidence that you would be spelling my clan tag while we were on the topic of racism. I knew you were trying to play around with the word. I've heard you use racial slurs before, no doubt I warned you before also. I've told you the game wasn't a place to discuss the matter, and you should bring it to the forums. You did not, continued to egg on me and call me out. I proceeded to silence you, not knowing you would be stupid enough to evade the silence. The ban was mainly for the silence.

    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:51 pm igger
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:34 pm LMAO
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:23 pm correct
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:15 pm he wants some dick cheese/
    Jun 23, 2013 7:24:50 pm dick cheese
    Jun 23, 2013 7:17:41 pm its called teamwork
    Jun 23, 2013 7:17:31 pm from bottom, noob
    Jun 23, 2013 7:16:56 pm noob down
    Jun 23, 2013 7:15:46 pm newb
    Jun 23, 2013 7:15:25 pm dick
    Jun 23, 2013 7:13:57 pm lol
    Jun 23, 2013 7:11:27 pm Cozo?
    Jun 23, 2013 7:11:07 pm hey disk wanna go down?
    Jun 23, 2013 7:08:52 pm ooooooooo
    Jun 23, 2013 7:04:04 pm HA
    Jun 23, 2013 6:07:45 pm Gay Game
    Jun 23, 2013 6:06:37 pm pass em over
    Jun 23, 2013 6:05:07 pm sheesh
    Jun 23, 2013 6:05:02 pm type !illegal

    ^ (Read from bottom to top) So if you read the above, there was no sign of you even talking to me, nor talking about my clan tag. Clearly, you said what you said out of nowhere. You know me pretty well. You wouldn't call me by my clan tag, but my name - Orange. "Jun 23, 2013 7:26:51 pm igger" happened right after a player said the actual racial slur and was a big discussion on the topic of racism. I've given a warning. I expect you, out of everyone, to know better since you've been around for a while.
    Orange, Jun 23, 2013 Last edited by Orange, Jun 23, 2013
  3. Feb 23, 2013
    Well As an input, you stated you "got silenced, and upon Rejoining", Avoiding A Punishment isn't the right way to go about things, and if you Avoided the silence, I'm sorry but i'm behind Orange on the ban.
  4. Jul 20, 2010
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:52 pm146Disk 46 !ztele
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:51 pm109Supraman igger
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:37 pm821CozO !ztele
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:34 pm109Supraman LMAO
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:30 pm806Helraisergo play with your cheeses
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:27 pm236Nivitaso cover me x3
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:23 pm109Supraman correct
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:22 pm236Nivitaok ok
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:04 pm163Cape7 大聲甚麼啦?! lol
    Jun 23, 2013 7:26:00 pm163Cape7 大聲甚麼啦?! i'll try
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:57 pm163Cape7 大聲甚麼啦?! ok
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:47 pm236Nivitadont open cape x3
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:35 pm1Tigger. Orange [pF] !revote
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:32 pm1Tigger. Orange [pF] one is gay
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:30 pm1Tigger. Orange [pF] I would say 2
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:23 pm1,344R.I.P KING ZYZZ yah real funny ^
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:22 pm370Swoobles! Spongebob Squarepants !ztele
    Jun 23, 2013 7:25:15 pm109Supraman he wants some dick cheese/
    Jun 23, 2013 7:24:55 pm1Tigger. Orange [pF] are you japanese?
    Jun 23, 2013 7:24:54 pm799O4cuhzz yay :grin:
    Jun 23, 2013 7:24:53 pm1Tigger. Orange [pF] aikeda

    Logs from Stats from that time frame, so we can see what was going on. @Haplo canz we get thez logsz! ZM around 7:24pm to 7:32pm.
    Badgriuel, Jun 23, 2013 Last edited by Badgriuel, Jun 23, 2013
  5. Jun 23, 2013
    The only part of what I have said above that was even remotely directed towards you was "igger". As you can see, anything prior to that was directed towards other players. As I have stated in my original post, my intentions were to ask you what that means, nothing more - nothing less and you immediately kicked me. And if you yourself think your own name could cause some confusion, why use it? Im well aware of the rules and I did not hear anyone use a racial slur in game nor was I involved in any of the conversations, but if you say you did I believe you, but please show proof of that.

    Also, please show me an example of EVER using a racial slur before on any CS server.
    Post Merged, Jun 23, 2013

    It was an unjustified kick and I did not rejoin to play, I rejoined to get an explanation for the kick. As I stated before I have no time nor desire to visit the forums to report an admin, which Orange for some reason really pushed me on doing.
  6. Feb 8, 2013
    You mainly use the mic and even if it was chat, I don't think it would be possible for me to pull logs from your whole history. Anyways, like I said, I do not understand why you would call me by my clan tag since you know me very well as Orange. Just the fact you said "igger" right when I gave out a warning about the use of racial slurs and how it's not allowed on the server, amuses me.
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  8. Jun 23, 2013

    What is so hard for you to understand about a question with regards to your name? That's what I don't understand. It wasn't about "orange", it was about "tigger". You kicked me with "dont push it" which tells me nothing thus for rejoin.

    And once again, I was not involved nor heard any of the convo you had going on with 40+ others on the server with 1/2 of you on the mic.

    Once again, please show an example of me ever using a racial slur. Since once again, you are making up things that have no relation to the case what so ever.
  9. Feb 8, 2013
    I understand racism is in all our heads, but when the server prohibits racism/racial slurs, then I'll enforce it to the best my ability. I dislike how you were trying to poke me with it and think it's ok because you took out a letter. That's when it gets me. I know sometimes it'll slip out of ones mouth, and I often let it slide depending on the player. I don't think this is the case for you though. It was intended. Therefore I kicked you.
  10. Jun 23, 2013
    And once again, Im well aware of the rules, but in this case this is exactly what happened and I believe the situation was handled improperly.

    Racism in all of our heads? Once again, speak for yourself. It was not even remotely on my mind. My whole intention was to ask you what your tag means but you took it way out of proportions. I can understand enforcing server rules, but I see that its pointless for me to try to get my point across. You seem to completely miss my point.
  11. Feb 8, 2013
    It doesn't matter if you've ever had this problem or said any racial slurs before. The problem is you've said it now, and was kicked, then you continued to argue with me even when told to bring it on the forums. Then you got banned for evading silence. That's it.
  12. Jul 20, 2010
    Let's just wait for the entire logs to be pulled by @Haplo.
  13. Jun 23, 2013

    But if you're going to accuse me of something why not have proof? You just said it a few posts above that you've seen me use racial slurs before..

    And once again, that was not my intention and not even remotely close, but you seem to far set on your opinion. I did not argue with you, I simply asked for an explanation. An immediate kick with "dont push it" doesnt have an explanation or a proper reason.

    Regardless, I'm not going to argue and waste my time. You seem to only see your side which you are so set on seeing. Your childish answers with no direct correspondence to the questions are leading this to nowhere, just like what happened in game.
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  16. Jun 23, 2013
    L 06/23/2013 - 21:30:58: "Orange [pF]:heart:155><STEAM_0:0:61470582><Spectator>" say "Bring it to the forums if you feel my name contains racial slur. You do it."
    L 06/23/2013 - 21:31:10: "Supraman:heart:579><STEAM_0:0:8523102><CT>" say "Then why did you kick me noob?"
    L 06/23/2013 - 21:31:21: [basecomm.smx] "Orange [pF]:heart:155><STEAM_0:0:61470582><>" silenced "Supraman:heart:579><STEAM_0:0:8523102><>"

    Thank you! See.. nowhere were my intentions to use "iggner" as a racial slur nor is it even a word. It was a mere question to what it means in his name, but he blew up and not only that but tried to provoke me.

    That's just retarded.
    Trigger, Jun 23, 2013 Last edited by Supraman, Jun 23, 2013
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  18. Feb 8, 2013
    Where in the hell is the question mark after "igger"? Don't see it.
  19. Jun 23, 2013

    lol did you nor read my original post. my pwhole intemtion was to say "TIGGER". I miss-typed on accident and I admin, to some it might look like I am trying to say or use a racial slur, but it wasnt. i was not involved in any other the convo's with Orange or others on the mic and did not even listen to what they were speaking about.
    Post Merged, Jun 23, 2013

    I was going to type "tigger" "what the hell is that". Even if there was a "?" your reaction would have been the same. I played with you long enough and litely you have been blowing up on players quite frequently. I dont normally report admin, hell I think this is my first ever report, but you have been unjust to many as the case here. I can understand a warning, but an immediate kick with no explanation is a bit much, even if it was a mistake on my part. I didnt use any racial slurs nor was I trying to discriminate towards anyone. Not even remotely close. It was supposed to be a mere question.
  20. Feb 8, 2013
    You said "It was a mere question to what it means in his name", but if you're asking me what it means, shouldn't it be "Tigger?" or at least "igger?". Doesn't show that. So that wasn't your intentions, not to ask me.
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  22. Jun 23, 2013

    I have no problem with saying sorry, I have been running servers for a long time and a player even longer to know. Its a fact, I missed the letter, nothing I could do about it and it happened at a bad time. However, an immediate kick with no explanation does not give me anything and as I look at it abuse, so of course I would rejoin (which resulted in a ban).

    I did not argue with him to provoke him, in fact he provoked me, all I wanted was a mere quick explanation.

    L 06/23/2013 - 21:27:10: "Supraman:heart:579><STEAM_0:0:8523102><Spectator>" say "why was i kicked?"
    L 06/23/2013 - 21:27:13: "Orange [pF]:heart:155><STEAM_0:0:61470582><Spectator>" say "Say it again. Dare you."
    L 06/23/2013 - 21:27:26: "Orange [pF]:heart:155><STEAM_0:0:61470582><Spectator>" say "Racial slur intended."
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