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Delayed zombie tranfsormation

Discussion in Counter-Strike: Source started by Thorazine, Jan 23, 2008

  1. Jan 14, 2008
    One of the things I mentioned briefly in another thread is how silly it is that zombies instantly transform. So I've been reading through the Zombie Mod forums to see if anyone else has come up with ideas on that. After a few hours of slogging through posts I found all kinds of crazy suggestions like multiple knife hits and loooong delays of one or two full minutes (!?) with blurred vision and shit like that, even from ATIX of atix_helicopter fame (Cool to see SauceHelmet involved over there too, btw).

    All I'm really interested in is a one or two second delay instead of *poof* you're a zombie. Freeze player controls and cause some violent stuttering/shaking as a visual cue before they poof, so they can't just immediately turn around and knife the humans nearby. Give them full zombie health as soon as they get hit and let them take damage and knockback too.

    That might help with assholes who try to get zombied or really don't care that they can get knifed by standing too close to a cade/window/opening or constantly running over to the edge of a box/truck/ledge trying to get kills. The attacking zombie still gets a kill and it might make careless players think twice about risking a stupid position if they know the other humans nearby have a better chance of gunning them down or away. It would also slow down those crazy chain reactions a bit, but your chances of survival are still practically zero if you're all packed/stacked in something like sardines and everyone aims away from the cade or opening. I don't see it having a big effect on game balance, just makes it a little more interesting and slightly more (ahem) realistic.

    Was/is there a cvar implemented that slows down zombie transform? If not I might register and repost this over at Zombie Mod.
  2. Oct 27, 2007
    i personally like how you turn right away, cause i do block when it comes to noobs going for a vent and if i get slashed then i can get those "noobs" too for trying to vent camp
  3. Jan 14, 2008
    Eh, I've done that a few times. But then I realized I was just being an asshole myself by blocking and intentionally trying to get zombied to knife someone else, both of which are against the rules, even if it's with 'good' intentions. To me it's a waste of time and effort to escalate a teenage pissing contest.

    If there's no admin to do something about it immediately, I've found a war of attrition works better. Give them nothing. Don't try to threaten them with screenies or demos. Don't bother with !voteban. They don't care. They know they'll still get away with it and even if they do get banned, whatever it's just another server. Leave them alone and tell everyone else to leave them alone too. Then the little bastards don't get the satisfaction of racking up easy kills, or pissing everyone off, or arguing about it, or getting attention, which is what they really want. Eventually they get bored and resort to the usual childish threats and taunts and mic spamming, but by then no one's really listening.

    Speaking of ignoring shitheads, I've noticed that player list muting works now. I gave up trying many months and many servers ago. Was that fixed here recently?
  4. Oct 27, 2007
    yes you do have a point, but when i know someone is trying to illegally camp i think its worth it to piss them off by blocking off that spot because i aint the one getting mad, they are.
    but you are right i am doing an illegal thing, but hey once the edited maps are up, then that wont be needed anymore.

    now my main question; who has rcon? i need some maps uploaded to rotation:razz:
    edited maps
  5. Apr 9, 2007
    PM me with links to your updated maps and ill give them a look at.

    As for delay'd Zombie Transformation there is a command in the zombie.cfg file (I think), But how long do you think they should be human before taking the plunge into Zombiedom.
  6. Jan 14, 2008
    One full second between getting knifed and turning into a zombie would be cool. But if they can't eat damage or get knocked back during that time, it's not really worth it.
  7. Dec 30, 2006
    I like instant transformation. I think it is better and like i always say. Ct have on most maps a very considerable advantage when they get into groups. Even though right now it is as even as it has ever been but giving ct a thing like zombies dont transform right away and you can shoot them away. Would give ct a major advantage and it would throw the balance off all over again.
  8. Jan 14, 2008
    Fair enough, your call. :smile: I agree it does give CTs an advantage, but not a huge balance wrecking one. Like I said if everyone turns to fire at a transforming zombie nearby that means they're not concentrating on the cade or opening and another zombie can get in easier just as always. No big deal it was just an idea.