Yep! I just got a Sabian 20" B8 Ride Im happy!!!! My first peace of Serious and most valuable equipment. im going to treat it like my baby lol. It is for my birthday, but i hope i get to use it before then (13th of Dec) its was Bargain's at Â£68 about $100 i think it is i dollars. Im so exited, and soon a double pedal !!! wooh Live is good!