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Making demos of cade breakers and nothing is done

Discussion in Admin Abuse started by bubblegumhero, Feb 15, 2011

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  1. Jan 24, 2011
    I submitted a demo of a person named U IN THE 80's cade breaking on PF ZM 1 server under player abuse. I even told admins i submited a demo and that he was still cade breaking I am just ignored. Then an admin witnesses his cade breaking and he gets kicked instead of banned. WTF is with the selective bullshit?

    I have seen a random person come in and cade break and he is instantly perma banned by an admin. But yet a person who breaks cades over and over is just kicked? And then when I type in all caps that he has been breaking cades for a while I get muted.

    This is really getting to be crap with the admins allowing certain rule breakers and then banning others for stupid shit.
  2. Jun 4, 2006
    If that's at all true I'd like to know the name of the admin as that's entirely the wrong thing to do. Cade breaking doesn't even escalate to a permaban so an admin instantly permabanning someone who does cade break, without warning or even with warning is not the right thing to do.

    As for the rest, perhaps the admin in-game did not know about your report on the player, in which case, warning or kicking the player was perfectly fine depending on the situation. Also what admin muted you? If you said 1 message in all caps that doesn't grant a mute... if you were spamming chat, that does.
  3. Jan 24, 2011
    That adnin was bella pull the logs. After he was kicked I said in call caps I SUBMITTED A DEMO OF HIM CADE BREAKING AND HAS DONE IT MANY TIMES......

    Then I get a mute and private message saying shoosh if you dont like the way I handle things post it on the forums.

    The perma bans I will try to record those but will be a little harder to do so. But when I look at the ban list theres a few people that we banned for cade breaking at the same time I was playing and no warnings given. Not sure how far your logs go back but I can try to compile a list or keep track in the future.
  4. Sep 22, 2010

    For this comment alone, any admin would gag you as you have broken rules yourself threaten players with an excuse of "knowing a higher admin".

    Remember, telling us how to do something most likely will always not end well. Secondly using admins as an excuse to threaten others of bans does not help your cause.

    And for the person that you reported, why don't you upload proof, that would speed up the process.
  5. Jun 4, 2006

    ^ This is subject to rule 11, but a warning should have been issued. If one was issued previously then the gag was valid.

    11. Do not disrespect or interfere with admins doing their jobs.
    This includes arguing with admins regarding their decision on things.
    Punishment: Warn -> Mute/Gag -> Temporary Ban(1hour to 1day length)
    Note: If you disagree with a certain admin's actions, post about it on our forums and let us know.

    I appreciate you taking the time to demo rule breakers, big or small, and letting us know but understand not all admins are as active as they should be on the forums (not pointing fingers at anyone) or see everything that's posted. Expecting her to ban the guy for cade breaking (when it was the first or second time she saw him/her do it) simply because you posted a thread about 80's on the forums is fairly silly. Instead you could inform the admin (in a calm manner) about the player's past antics and direct him/her to any proof you have.
  6. Jan 24, 2011

    The person I reported has allready ben sent to player abuse. Check for yourself its in there. Ok here is the demo anyway. www.johnsmom.com/demos/u80.rar

    And where do you see in your log that I used the excuse of knowing an admin? Please read what you just posted carefuly and tell me.

    I mean admins tell people they cant do anything unless they see it. So people waste their time recording demos and posting and then still nothing happens to the rule breakers. Now I can see from the regulars that tell me and have told me im wasting my time reporting because nothing is ever done. To those of you sorry I did not heed your warning. I guess the people who donate get special treatment above others and can mold rules how they see fit. Just like taz telling admins I was purposly spraying my spray in his face and following him and yet he didnt have a demo of it because it never happened and then other admins accusing me of it and telling me not to do it.

    It seems to me even a demo does you no good so its pointless in recording them so I wont even bother anymore. My apologies for reporting rule breakers and unscrupulious admins in the past.
  7. Apr 4, 2009
    I've been the one dealing with your claims and every demo you send is pretty bad so unless you're going to get better demos nothing will happen.

    The demo on u80 only shows him shooting the table possibly into you and keeping it there at best its a 20 mins ban.
  8. Mar 26, 2009
    I see this kind of thing happen ALL the time. Cade breakers never get kicked unless they break a cade an admin has made, or has something to do with. The best I've seen is the person getting warned over and over again (more than 5-10 times) without any action if they're fucking with someone else's cade. I've complained about my cade being broken with at least 4 different admins in plain sight of seeing and nothing was ever done about it, hell admins even break my cade to get in long after the round started and obviously nothing happens to them.

    Getting demos of the person doing it is more or less impossible unless you have demos running the entire time you play on the server, which is cumbersome to players and wastes tons of drive space from all of the PCM audio used on the voice recordings. The server needs to just run a SourceTV bot that records every round so players aren't solely burdened for evidence when most of the time they can't produce any, or poor evidence from their view at the time. I know another server that has a SourceTV bot that records all rounds and it's very effective.
  9. Jan 24, 2011
    Well I guess I should run a demo of each round then so nothing is missed.

    Your saying the demo of me reporting the cade breaker was bad? The demo of me reporting admins talking bad about other admins was bad?

    Clearly the table belongs behind the door and not on top of me on a wall. And clearly you seen him non stop shooting the table onto me? Clearly you seen the zombie come in and infect all the people in the room including the cade breaker?

    Here let me post that demo again in case your looking at the wrong demo. www.johnsmom.com/demos/u80.rar <---------HOW IS THIS A BAD DEMO?
  10. Apr 4, 2009
    Think you need to read stuff better before you respond I already addressed your demo on u80.
  11. Jan 24, 2011

    Ya I guess I will just need to run a demo 24/7 not really worried my rig can handle it. Feel sorry for the admins that have to watch them. But of course they wont waste their time. I think admins are not even looking at demos most the time. I am told my demos are bad but yet my demo clearly shows a cade breaker constantly shooting a table keeping me pinned inside it and its the same cade breaker that the admins saw so how can that be a bad demo. Read my post above this one and watch the demo for yourself.

    It seems when people point out the bad admins they are ganged up on by other admins. Thats fine I will keep reporting the worthless admins not doing their jobs.
  12. Jan 24, 2011

    I think you need to scroll up and read. After you supposedly address my demo of u80 you post EVERY ONE OF MY DEMOS! I do pay attention to detail. Even if you agree 1 or some of my demoes are good you dont post something saying EVERY ONE OF MY DEMOS. This is the reason the server is the way it is. Admins changing words and not reporting facts. I do have a right to defend myself dont I?

    We can go round and round bro. Its getting us no where.
  13. Apr 4, 2009
    kilov2 - Demo shows him being stuck due to the anti zombie stacking then after that it shows him not knowing how to crouch jump.

    c14dude - Banned.

    [AA-12] Zombie Killer - Claimed he was in a crouch spot yet he wasn't.

    e80 - claim of cade breaking but demo doesn't show him actually breaking your cade just shooting it when its already on you.

    Did I miss anyone?
  14. Jan 24, 2011
    Like I stated I guess I will run a demo 24/7 Obviouslt the guy was purposly shooting the table on top of me and im trying to put it back after he broke it. And the other people complaining about him incuding the admin kicking him for cade breaking proves my demo is vaid. The table does not belong in that spot.

    Its pretty obvious certain admins are pissed because I am reporting them. So guess what admins that like to break the rules. Every time I play, a demo will be recorded 24/7 I will be nice and keep each demo to each round. Now lets see what you guys think about that knowing that a 24/7 demo is being recorded of your actions? SourceTV is a nice idea but dont think the server can take it.
  15. Apr 4, 2009

    Threatening admins won't get your very far if you want to record demos and report stuff then feel free to just make sure they are what you claim this time, starting a demo after what you claimed happens will not work.

    Also remember that you are on your last chance for your past bans.
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