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No bhopping in ZE?????????????????

Discussion in Everything & Anything started by s3th, Jan 18, 2012

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  1. s3th
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    I am just curious who established the no bunny hopping rule and why in the ze server, which I was unaware of until just recently trying the server for the first time. How does skill become an illegality in a server? It takes years of practice to perfect, and those that do it with scripts are easily noticeable over the masses. You punish those who use outside methods / scripts / cheats, but you punish those aswell with a quick finger?

    It really disappointed me to the point that I really don't even want to play in that server for such rule. I'm sure its been argued before, but just want some info on how this came to be please. If it can be argued is their a way we can have it over ruled, polls, vote, etc.

    Thanks.
    s3th, Jan 18, 2012
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  2. Kyle
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    ZR glitches out causing Zombies to fly forward, there are a number of topics in regards to this already if you look in the Server Admin section.
    Kyle, Jan 18, 2012
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  3. s3th
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    So restrict to humans only then?
    s3th, Jan 18, 2012
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  4. Kyle
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    That is what is set. Zombie:Reloaded deals with classes very strangely (doesn't handle late cookie loading well at all).

    Again, there are a number of topics already discussing this. Please read one of those.

    Thanks!
    Kyle, Jan 18, 2012
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  5. dillinger
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    Bhopping, though fun as shit, provides an unfair advantage on ZE which is not present in ZM. Mainly for zombies, who can bhop and catch up to walking humans, but humans as well - like getting to door buttons, etc, more quickly than intended. ZE is supposed to be at a set pace, and bhopping upsets that balance.
    dillinger, Jan 18, 2012
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  6. Badgriuel
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    Also people that would bhop as humans would go on ahead and hit triggers way in advance which would lead to most of the team dying and people would use it to troll. Ze is supposed to be played with everyone running as a group, not some people that can bhop go on ahead and use it as an unfair advantage. Also what Kyle said go look at the past topics that are about bhopping on ze. Thanks.
    Badgriuel, Jan 18, 2012
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  7. Brian
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    Tell that to everyone that takes the easy way out with mousewheel and fps capping... also skins that allow donors and admins to jump higher/further certainly doesn't help make it any harder. On a server like ZE, the game play / balance is ruined by individuals who bhop, legit or not, as they can easily dominate on any map. I personally wasn't involved in the rule, or any of ZE's rules for that matter, nor do I play ZE but this is my understanding.
    Brian, Jan 18, 2012
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  8. Momo
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    This is really the best way to look at it.
    Momo, Jan 18, 2012
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  9. s3th
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    Ok.... I guess I won't be playing on ZE servers then.

    offtopic: Even if you tell people to use mousewheel people still can't bhop and I've played 10 years and have never heard of fps capping? It took me a lot of scoutzknivez and hours of bhop maps over a LONG time to get very good at it. Never done anything other than use my mousewheel, work smarter not harder.
    s3th, Jan 18, 2012
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  10. Brian
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    You're just misinformed I'm afraid. It's very easy to do, and works very well.
    Brian, Jan 18, 2012
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  11. Luke
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    Wow... you won't play on our zombie escape server because it's set up to be fair, and you want an unfair advantage?
    Luke, Jan 18, 2012
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  12. Peter
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    Whatever. Your choice. They won't miss you. I guess we won't be expecting any promotion requests from you either.
    Peter, Jan 18, 2012
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  13. s3th
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    I'm sorry but saying you can't bhop because your better than others at it, is like saying you can't play here because your aim is better than others.

    No skin off my back I still have other wonderful pF servers. :thumbsup:
    s3th, Jan 18, 2012
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  14. Brian
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    err not quite. Your analogy would work if someone's ability to aim was considered an extra learned skill, not one required by default in the game itself. Bhopping is not required, it is an extra learned (or scripted) skill that can and does offset the balance / game play in this particular instance. Aim, on the other hand, is required and cannot be held to the same standards (unless enhanced aim is obviously gained through means of cheating, of course).

    Sorry to hear the ruling has hindered your desire to play there.
    Brian, Jan 18, 2012
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  15. Sera
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    C'est la vie.
    Sera, Jan 18, 2012
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  16. s3th
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    Atleast your not an asshole about the situation, thanks. I guess after many years of bhopping its pretty hard to just stop so I can play on one server and seeing how I tend to forget a lot. I would be no different than the rest of these constant rule breakers. Just make it easy on myself and don't join at all to prevent recurrence.

    Thanks again.
    s3th, Jan 18, 2012
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  17. Brian
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    I feel ya, and a lot of others who bhop do too. It's unfortunate but that's just the style of ZE and bhopping can affect it negatively. :confused:
    Brian, Jan 18, 2012
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  18. Luke
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    I fixed him... you're welcome.

    Oh and, I know how you feel to be honest. I like bhopping, and it's difficult to just STOP. But it's not the reason why I don't play ZE. I have my reasons though.
    Luke, Jan 19, 2012
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  19. Taters
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    Truth.

    I learned to bhop in a day with mousewheel. Only scrubs use keyboard and crouch together imo.


    Back on topic, ZE isn't that hard to do without bhopping. in fact, it's pretty simple.

    Run to point, defend point, jump, crouch, defend point, blow up zombies, win.

    no real need to use it.
    Taters, Jan 19, 2012
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  20. [31Bravo] Ray
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    There are scripts on ZE that greatly limit the ability to BHop. If you try, the script will limit your velocity.
    [31Bravo] Ray, Jan 19, 2012
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