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Remove the zelda map

Discussion in Server Suggestions & Bugs started by Kables, May 11, 2017

  1. Jul 13, 2011
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    remove the fucking zelda map.
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    • Jul 26, 2016
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      Zelda is life
      • Artistic Artistic x 1
      • Oct 29, 2010
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        Why?
      • Jun 17, 2014
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        murders the server, errytime.
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        • Feb 6, 2017
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          It's really divided, some people love it like no other while others would rather run into a swarm of angry wasps than play it.
        • Jul 14, 2010
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          There's 2 Zelda maps...

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        • Oct 29, 2010
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          Never seen it happen.
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            May 11, 2017
          • Apr 26, 2015
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            Depends on the night really. If there are about 20-25 people playing, I'll see some leave and the server gets a bit more dead. When there are way more people on, it usually stays consistent I feel.
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            • Jun 4, 2006
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              Interactive chart (hover for values):
              http://plaguefest.com/map-stats/zm_Zelda_OoT_Forest_TempleV2.html

              Static chart:
              zm_Zelda_OoT_Forest_TempleV2

              Raw data:
              PHP:

              map_instance_id  map_playercount_start  map_playercount_end  avg_playerchange  map_rtv_count  map_rtv_votecount  map_rtv_success
              ---------------  ---------------------  -------------------  ----------------  -------------  -----------------  ---------------
              1490881165        15                      15                    0.0000             5              1                  1
              1490981902        18                      20                    2.0000             10              1                  1
              1491050804        12                      15                    3.0000             4              1                  1
              1491180018        30                      32                    2.0000             17              1                  1
              1491334211        31                      24                    
              -7.0000            1              0                  0
              1491474723        5                      5                     0.0000             1              1                  1
              1491587321        18                      20                    2.0000             11              1                  1
              1491656753        14                      12                    
              -2.0000            7              1                  1
              1492070395        20                      19                    
              -1.0000            7              0                  0
              1492307504        33                      42                    9.0000             15              1                  1
              1492632896        19                      19                    0.0000             8              0                  0
              1492670876        12                      12                    0.0000             6              1                  1
              1492738109        44                      37                    
              -7.0000            8              0                  0
              1492776923        10                      17                    7.0000             6              1                  1
              1492797696        24                      22                    
              -2.0000            6              0                  0
              1493664879        32                      42                    10.0000            15              1                  1
              1493947652        37                      34                    
              -3.0000            19              1                  1
              1493975214        1                      3                     2.0000             1              1                  1
              1494165516        18                      16                    
              -2.0000            4              0                  0
              1494286813        12                      13                    1.0000             7              1                  1
              1494527204        17                      25                    8.0000             13              1                  1
              Totals:
              PHP:

              total_rtv   avg_rtv   times_rtv_started   num_rtv_passed   avg_playerchange   avg_playtime   num_instances
              ---------   -------   -----------------   --------------   ----------------   ------------   -------------
              171         8.1429    15                  15               1                  15             21

              What I've drawn from this:
              Player count doesn't appear to change much, but out of 21 instances, 15 were rtv'd, 2 of which occurred with only 1 rtv vote and 5 or less players, so we'll throw out those instances, giving us 19 instances where 13 of them were RTV'd. That leaves us with 6 instances out of 19 where the map hasn't been successfully RTV'd. That's not a great record as far as popularity goes even if it doesn't appear to be killing the server player count wise. It seems players are more likely to tolerate this map than they are to enjoy it.
              • Informative Informative x 3
              • Mar 26, 2012
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                I am personally one of the people that really like it. I do think it is more exciting if an admin like me noclip and unlock the item room.
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                • Apr 9, 2007
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                  Where's this data from?
                • Jun 4, 2006
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                  Deto's semi-new map stats plugin. Doesn't look like he's added it to Gitlab yet (pinged him about it just now). We haven't done anything with the data yet as we're waiting to obtain enough recorded instances to draw conclusions from. What I posted is just what the data is telling us so far.
                  • Informative Informative x 1
                  • Apr 9, 2007
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                    Ah, bummer. Was hoping this was the db we started years ago.
                  • Jul 13, 2011
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                    master piece of a map tho, looks like it took a lot of hard work.
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                    • Apr 26, 2015
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                      I think it just gets fun if it stays on the small part and the item room is open tbh, other than that its pretty boring.
                    • Feb 1, 2011
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                      Shame that so many don't like this map - it's so well done and has unique gameplay mechanics. I bet a lot of people don't know about the human chest powers and/or zombie clay pot abilities. Also really hits you in the Ocarina of Time feels with the music and level design. Funny also that the same mapper created Fail Inc which used to be hugely popular and still is sorta.
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                        dillinger, May 11, 2017 Last edited by dillinger, May 11, 2017
                      • Jun 29, 2014
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                        lol! plenty of server killers that need to be scrapped.
                      • Sep 2, 2014
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                        I <3 this mappo please don't kill
                      • Jul 14, 2010
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                        I think this map is good and that's it just not fully appreciated. There are way worse maps on the server. I made a thread on it a while ago and no one posted much :razz:
                        I take back what I said about maps like gigabite's and think we should start over and review some maps more that need trashing. I think we should add back some old classics too, but some might need some patching from mappers to be made up to date or remove some illegal spots for pF sake. Maybe we could give some mappers some time or incentive to do this even though they get free donor already if that isn't enough.

                        @Mapper

                        http://plaguefest.com/threads/map-cleanse-for-zm.21944/
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                          PeNguiN, May 12, 2017 Last edited by PeNguiN, May 12, 2017
                        • Jul 13, 2011
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