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Should I buy these to complete my rig?

Discussion in Hardware Hangout started by Conker, Dec 2, 2013

  1. Mar 31, 2010
    I'm from Canada, so prices on Newegg.ca are usually higher than in the US (and we don't have as many specials either)...

    I want to profit of Cyber Monday deals, so here's what I came up with:

    • ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card
    • CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler. 240mm
    • LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40)
    • Intel Core i7-4930K Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80633i74930K
    • ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    • G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX
    • CORSAIR AX series AX860 860W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
    All this comes to $1,514.58 with shipping.
    What I have right now that I'll add with the components above is:
    • Cooler Master HAF X - High Air Flow Full Tower Computer Case with Windowed Side Panel and USB 3.0 Ports
    • Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MKNSSDCR120GB-DX 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    • Western Digital WD Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
    • Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
    • SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
    • ASUS VE276Q Black 27" Full HD HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/Display Port & Speakers
    Is there something you would add/change/remove from my list of to-buy components. I will be making the purchase later today, and I really need something great that I can work high-end performance programs like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, etc. The reason I don't want to invest on a new GPU just yet is because I feel mine is still good enough for the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong!
    Thank you very much!
    Conker, Dec 2, 2013 Last edited by Conker, Dec 4, 2013
  2. Jan 12, 2011
    Wow. Just.... *drool* Bravo, good sir. I haven't kept up with hardware in a long while, but that's an impressive haul. Bravo.

    You. Magnificent. Bastard. [IMG]

    So a few questions. Well, first @Brett, and then questions.
    Considering you already have a couple fast hard drives plus a solid state, is your plan to replace them or add capacity? By the looks of it, your case can load 5 drives. You have more than enough space for your OS and specific programs (namely the Photoshop/Premiere stuff) on the SSD alone, and the other 2TBs worth running at 7200rpm should be plenty fast for most programs and games. If you're going for extra space, are you trying to improve every bit of performance for more programs/games, or is it there to store general stuff? (Before-posting-thought-occurs: Are you going to mirror the 2 new drives? One as extra space and the other as backup?) If it's just storage for pictures/videos, then is there a measurable difference in loading or power? Which leads me to...

    Pardon my ignorance with the listed current/future parts, but what are you running in there to need 860W? What does your system currently use? :bugeyes:

    I haven't seen discrete sound cards in a while, and those I have seen came out of dial-up era computers. I presume if you're buying this, then you have a really intense sound system in your room. I expect nothing less than a glorious 9.2 echoing from Canada, and that's not talking about speaker arrangement; that's in Richters. Please don't plug headphones into that.

    The other stuff I'm not familiar enough with to talk about, so I'll end on this question:
    Is it possible to order international (as just over the border) without massive additional shipping costs? Or would it be possible to ask a friend in the US to order something for you and deliver it with reimbursement? Would the savings (if any) justify it? I'm just curious if that option has been considered if Canadian prices are noticeably different.

    Just worth noting, I'm not discouraging anything on the list. My questions here are more for my own understanding than necessarily as criticism.:sweat:
    (Since I'm moderately clueless in current hardware, have more tags! @Brett @Zenzr @Bender Rodriguez @Ghost @Anyone else I think is tech-savvy who isn't a Root and would likely ban me for tagging them)
    Vadleon, Dec 2, 2013 Last edited by Vadleon, Dec 2, 2013
  3. Dec 1, 2013
    Get rid of the soundcard as you will be using onboard HD audio anyways. Also, get rid of the CPU cooler as they are glorified water coolers and they are not even that great. They're loud and annoying when it comes to maintenance. Just get a good heatsink and you'll be golden
  4. Feb 27, 2012
    Onboard audio sucks once you have heard a Soundcard plus a good headset. If he should get any sound card, it should be a Xonar DGX (they're sold out of the Xonar DG, but the DGX is exactly the fucking same except PCI-1x slot instead of a 16x slot.) If you got the extra cash and don't already have a good headset, get the Siberia V2. For it's price, it is a badass headset and i've heard nothing but good things about them. I plan on getting myself a pair of those eventually.

    Also, water cooling is nice, but it's a pain in the ass to maintain most of the time, and if you don't put it together properly, it will leak all over your system. I recommend getting the Hyper 212 EVO (i'm pretty sure it's the exact same as the Hyper 212 Plus, but i don't think an extra $5 will kill you lol) Set up a Push-Pull configuration on it and you'll be golden.

    If for some reason you do go for water cooling, make sure you use Distilled Water, since it isn't conductive and has a much lower chance to fuck up your computer if it does leak.

    Lastly, why so much storage? That's over 8TB of storage, jesus christ. Do you have a lot of porn or something? I would say don't bother with the second Toshiba HDD.
  5. Jul 8, 2012
    You don't?

    But I pretty much agree with Tony. Though I tend to shy away from gaming headsets and just get a real headset like Audio Technica, Bose, or Sennheiser plus a desk mic or a clip on mic. Unless of course you don't really want to drop more than $100 on a headset, which I guess works too lol.
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Aug 2, 2010

      This... is... bad.

      Why would someone purchase a soundcard and then turn around and use their onboard audio? I use an Asus Xonar card and I would shank the person that tries to take it away from me. I also own a glorified water cooler. I don't know where you hear it's loud and annoying because I don't have those problems. Does it outperform a true water cooling setup? Hell no. Why did I get it? Because I don't want to deal with the maintenance of a true water cooling setup. There is 0 maintenance to perform with the Corsair H100i or other similar cpu coolers and it outperforms whatever you may have in your rig. I have a rock SOLID 4.6 ghz OC'd i7-3770k in my rig. That's above what any of the other air guys have managed to pull and kept it steady.

      I'm sure Brett is screaming at his monitor after reading your post.
      • Agree Agree x 2
      • Jul 8, 2012
        He's probably killing babies too.
      • Dec 1, 2013

        He didn't purchase the soundcard. He said that he's got his mind set on PURCHASING one. Note the tenses here. I think people are afraid of trying things on air cooling. Get a good grease (IC Diamond) and heatsink and you'll be golden.

        I don't use headphones while gaming, never have. Never any issue with HD Audio Onboard. Does he plan on getting a 5-9.2 speaker setup??

        edit: Tony's right on the soundcard, though. Get a Xonar over a Creative.
        Kuriin, Dec 2, 2013 Last edited by Kuriin, Dec 2, 2013
      • Aug 2, 2010

        I've been making custom rigs since 1999. Pretty much tried everything under the sun and I've got to say the cpu water cooling setups are excellent. The last air cooler I had was the Noctua DH-14. Thing was beastly and it worked well but it still doesn't perform as well as my H100. I've got 4 Noctua NF fans in a push/pull configuration and there's nothing in the air cooling segment that can touch the numbers I get.

        Why a sound card? Because there are folks out there that are audiophiles. You'll find a few of them on this site, me included.
        • Zing! Zing! x 1
        • Mar 30, 2012
          I'm using a Xonar myself, but i also have high quality studio headphones. If you have some fatality "gaming" headset, the sound card is a waste of money.

          As for H100 outperforming everything not real water cooling, nope.
          Noctua D-14 beats that shit 10 - 0. Just super sayan.

          Oh, and nice to see other audiophiles here.
        • Jul 8, 2012
          Audiophiles unite!

          But no, I agree 100% with @rxn. Although on board sound is probably okay for most people, once you truly hear good sound, and I mean like truly truly hear a good set up you will never EVER want to go back. I would not waste my $200 headphones (which are on the cheap side, but still good) on some no name set up.
          • Agree Agree x 1
            Zenzr, Dec 4, 2013 Last edited by Zenzr, Dec 5, 2013
          • Jun 11, 2012
            Soundblaster with some M50 ova here. I need a good mixer too.
          • Jul 8, 2012
            Yes sir.
          • Aug 2, 2010

            Please read my previous post. Had it, doesn't work as well as my H100. Other reviewers' numbers also agree with my experience. Unless you've run both, I don't see how you can compare the two.