When I started playing ZE a little over a year ago, pF was full 18 hours of the day. Yes, it usually had 50+ players for 18 hours, and often more. Currently, that's not the case, and it is NOT because ZE isn't as popular as it was a year ago (certain servers that I wont name are still full like pF used to be). I think this is due to two things: bad map choices, and the voting system that sometimes encourages these bad map choices. There are three 'issues' with the voting system. These issues cause unpopular/'server killing' maps to be played. - maxing out the nominations before the 2nd extend, which causes 6 random maps to be in the map vote (yes, I agree - its a good way to play underplayed maps.. but SOME of those maps are hurting pF's popularity). - people voting for a bad map 'because its not mako/westersand/paranoid/etc' - people nominating bad maps they KNOW will be rtv'd, just so the map they really want to play goes through the recent maps list faster so it becomes available for nominate When one of these bad maps is chosen, it inevitably does one of the following: - causes a near instant RTV and a switch to a new map - empties the server out and 'kills' it for the night, sometimes as early as 9PM Pacific - causes players to go populate competing servers (no names, but you can guess which I mean) The voting system issues don't need to be fixed or changed, they would simply stop being issues if some of the bad maps were removed. I, and I'm sure many others, would like the map list on ZE to be trimmed slightly, just enough to get rid of a small number of the server killing maps. I'm certain that there will never be 100% agreement on which maps people would like to be removed, as every map is probably liked by someone. However, I'm pretty sure that 90% of players would be able to agree on 10-15 maps that could be removed in order to make pF more popular and attractive to ZE players. Examples that I've noticed that always get RTV'd or kill the server for the night (please tell me if you honestly like any of these maps enough where you would rather have them on the server instead of having 60 players for most of the day): - 2012 - Alien v predator - barrage - infected prison - gods wrath (note: I REALLY like this one... but its unpopular and I would be willing to give it up to make pF more popular) - infected sewers - motanumInc - nuke (again, I really like this one) - ocean base escape - resonance cascade - sewer escape - sorrento - sst_v1 - stalker escape - train escape - volcano escape Ideally, if management happens to agree with this idea (and if there is not a horde of people trying to crucify me for this thread), it would be great to have a poll for people to vote on the worst 10-15 maps that could be removed (like was done with ZM). Please remember, all of this is aimed at increasing pF's popularity because I think its an awesome server and community. If I happened to put a map on my 'examples' that you disagree with, or if you disagree with this entire concept, just politely tell me. If you're a person who likes pF ZE, I'm bringing this up for your own best interest tl;dr - spend the 3 freaking minutes to read the post. reading is not hard, and I tried not to use big words.