Discussion in CS:S Zombie Escape started by Brian, Feb 15, 2017
I'm trying so hard to make sense of this, but I just can't, it hurts my brain.
Why would this even be a problem for you?
I played a lot of ze here prior to it's "death". Leaving an empty ze server running makes some me and some players question about its future. I can't accept ze being fully dead on pF because of management's decision to keep the server running regardless of if it's empty or not. Why do you think leaving the ze server empty is a good idea. It's not like we'd magically get players back.
I'm telling you, the ze server is "do or die." "Do" as in use brute force to get a decent playerbase and work on ze stuff in the future or "Die" as in shut the server down and work on a fun, creative new project for this community. Just stop neglecting a 0/64 server. It makes a bad mark on communities.
Theres no reason to get rid of it. We can still host ZE events whenever, and players and anyone can organize people to get on and play it. "work on a fun, creative new project for this community", Deto has already been working hard at ZME and we've already put up the surf rpg server this year. Mini games, ZE, and SRPG currently have 0/64 on them, but if we want to organize an event or get a group to play on them we can't do that if we shut down those can we?
Exactly. it doesnt hurt anyone to have the servers running with no one on them. People looking for ZM aren't going to care if the ZE server is empty.
Yeah if some people want to hop on ZE for some old nostalgia or what not, it's not harming anyone. I see random people get on there sometimes, and it's not hurting pF in any way. I don't agree with you that it looks bad leaving up the dead server. It looks just as bad to take it down so no one can use it. The future of ZE is obvious. It is dead on CSS. I only see EU servers that are barely afloat.
Although I don't think that ZE will ever be what it once was, that doesn't mean they have to shut it down. Like others have been saying, you can still host events and ppl from time to time can hop on the ZE server and play. Yes ZE is not popular on pF any more but I don't see it looking bad on pF by leaving it up. If management wants to keep it then it should stay up.
You all have valid points but...I'm not a zm player. I will never find any interest in zm at all. I have my curiosity of why ze is still up but empty is because of the many different communities that are active as well as communities that shut down their css ze servers as well (mostly in favor of csgo at the time it became popular). Just seeing that server empty makes me want to discuss about ze here. If the ze server here no longer exists, I can finally leave this community and take a well deserved rest.ze is one of those servers that requires a different kind of care and management. Surf and mg server can be empty because the nature of those gametypes doesn't always need to have players whereas ze should.I have made attempts to do events but not much avail. It's probably a combination of not much planning is involved, I am not the best with creating events, the event happens but not much join. This also applies with csgo too.
This sounds like a personal problem, dude. Not trying to be rude by saying that. If you have a desire to step away from pF, you should do so whether or not the ZE server is still up and running. You not being able to let go of the community is not a good reason for us to pull a functioning server down, empty or not.
I'd love to see ZE get populated again too, but it's not an easy task in a game like CS: Source which has had a dwindling population for some time. ZM has always been our hallmark and its consistent population reflects that.
There is a lot of " I " in your thought process. Your own personnal shortcomings have nothing to do with any of us, or the server and it's owners for that matter. Saying they should close ZE because it triggers your own insecurities and feelings of doubt is pretty narcissistic, honestly. Life isn't just about you.
I know it's pretty direct, but I got a feeling you haven't interacted with many frank people in your lifetime.
I'm thinking of something like your car starter. I would add 3 ~ 5 custom/MG maps so that a low pop could enjoy these maps while they wait for the population to grow into something suitable for ZE maps. I know it's not a custom/MG server, but I just can't see even the most popular maps being enjoyable with < 5 players.
It's fine as long as it's true especially if I haven't interacted with many frank (may as well say truthful, correct me if I'm wrong) people from playing ze after 2014. I can't say why because it will get more into of my personal events on ze and this type of discussion isn't on topic with this thread anyway.
Any time zm css will also be dead and then you will have all servers empty and the community will leave many of them I'm sure if you keep up and do nothing for your servers the most success would be in cs go but you just talk and do not act.
DON'T DIE ON ME
Ze nights still happening? Someone catch me up please.
I don't see any reason as to why there isn't any focus on this server.
You simply just assess what is needed, promote individuals dedicated for this project and light the tree up simple as that, just ignoring it for a "special event" or when 10 people decide to play every 6 years is more of an embarrassment and laziness than anything.
The problem is, currently, that we don't know what plans are in store for ze here. These are all the facts I know of:All csgo servers are inactive.Nothing major has been mentioned by roots about ze for at least a year (correct me if I'm wrong).Extremely hard to promote this kind of game/mod now at least in css.
Your ONLY active game mode is a dumbed down version of Zombie Escape, where the maps are simplistic and linear.
ZM is brainless. You make a square map and have humans fight zombies, ZE had some of the most complex maps I've ever seen for a game with a source engine dating back from 2004.
The only issue is the lack of management and effort to even revitalize the modes, I mean some of my most favorite memories are from ZE on this server, now it seems like nobody really cares.
I mean if you're going to just give up on the shit, man up and admit it so people can move on, if not give some sort of forewarning that you have ANY plans to revive the stuff.
A lot of things sound great and easy from the high level, but the Devil is in the details.
This isn't a mathematics or scientific problem where there is a "right" answer. Sometimes: You can make all right moves and still land on the wrong outcome.
You're right to an extent but there's always something missing. I mean seriously tho, people just need to start advertising that this server even still exists because nobody is going to find it on a server browser in game.
Like I can just tell everyone here has no interest in even trying, everyone is all melodramatic with everything.
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