Illegal spots

Guys i have been thinking for a while of ways to improve the server . i think obama said this already but i will say it anyways. U know how everybody sometimes gets confused in what spots are legal and what spots are illegal in certain maps. well i was wondering if i could start a project in which i will take screenshots of every illegal place in every map (or at least the ones that are confusing) and maybe we can link it to the rules of the server page so if people are wondering if the spot they are using is legal or not they can make sure. this would also help to enforce the rules and give people a more clear view of which spots they should not be using (i hope i made myself clear and it doesnt look like im trashtalking )

i like this. and to add to your idea. if there is anyone here that has decent mapping skills. place teles in some of the harder to manage spots?

I second (third?) this idea.

oh and people can learn to type !rules rather than bitch out the admins for warning them only once or twice about something

other than that awesome idea. then we can get definite answers on here about spots we're not sure about being legal or illegal.

Ohhhhhhh I see how it is......no one listens when the guy with a black mans name suggests a write up of illegal spots. The latino guys says something and youre all ears. At least its getting done. Im more than happy to help you latino. I think with all these people making threads about "leaving plague fest for reasons I WILL NOT DISCUSS" then coming back 2 weeks later and bossing everyone like they own the place (which they might) it would be nice to have a common point of reference instead of just highest ranked admin.

p.s. we should delete atix and space stationz

2 people reply, and your getting pissy over it

i've tryed this thread before and nothing happend

I could do that.
But I would need the vmf file of the maps. The converted Bsp files are usually lacking a lot of textures.

You're both minorities... stfu.

Speaking of maps, whatever happened to that toaster map idea? O_o....

Good idea Latino. Sounds like a lot of work though. You sure your up for it?

We've tried editing the maps to our qualifications a while back but I guess we just kind of moved out of that. I'm not sure... maybe it will work if we tried it again?

My opinion would be to have a pop up thing that would pop up after joining a team that states the rules and asking you if you acknowledge them by pushing a selected key, if the users do not comply by pushing selected key, then they would get kicked automatically. I've encountered this before on other zombie mod servers. It may help. It's an idea.

Also, maybe someone can edit the customs messages that pop up on the server (I'm not sure what it's called) to specific rules, not just telling them to type !rules. Maybe you already have, I just haven't noticed ._. But chyea ... just in case.

Oh yeah! I almost forgot. Can the ledge rule! It's a headache without tpmenu. Plus the players ALWAYS go back anyway, and it's hard to play and enjoy myself on the server when I have to constantly worry about people being on ledges. Not only that but along with my constant "whining" about people on the ledges, players get edgy, then a whole new situation starts where I have to mute them and get accused for admin abuse. I know it would enable a lot of cheap spots but common, we never used to have this rule until Umbrella went rambo with his auto back in the day and gave everyone ideas. Maybe by doing so you can decrease knock-back on certain zombie types? maybe even BAN THE AUTO-SNIPER ALTOGETHER? I've been crying for that for a long while. It's a noob gun, and hella annoying.

Can we decrease the amount of time you burn for too? please?

I know everyone's reactions to this already but here it goes. !ztele'ing from zombies should be tolerated. Why? because there's only so much !ztele's to use and not only that but you could simply !ztele after them if you happen to be a zombie. (I do) Another reason? Well... it makes us admins look like whiney little control freaks. Which we're not, obviously we're just doing what we paid for. Not only that but it just gives us admins less to watch over. I think we as admins need to lighten up on the amount of rules we make. I noticed the little extra rules we make sparks a lot of disagreements in the server, thus leading to bans and drama in the forums. I don't know. What do ya'll think?

One more thing. The dual box rooms on zm_crazycity_b2 that almost everyone says is illegal, should be legal. It's cheap yes, but not a crouch spot. I don't like the term "illegal", too many admins saying every cheapish spot is illegal when it's just cheap. I remember when that spot was legal, I've never heard of it being illegal until everyone just started saying it and agreeing with each other, now its just kind of stuck. It was never made official to my knowledge.... anyways, I could rant forever. I just want you guys to think a bout it.


Sorry for typing so much.

kthx

hey on survival with the ledge and a auto was great. You did the little auto fire rig and poof you sit back and watch 40 people make a line and give you one hell of a score lol. To bad those days are gone now, oh well. Thing is if the zombies all together had less knock back i think you would be able to have alot of the ledges and even tubes illegal cause you couldn't shoot them out. This has already been said before and people where against it so not going to bother going into detail about it. Also i am sure you could make the auto snipes have less knock back to them for our server to where people could use them but they would just suck bad enough people would stray from them more.

Because you have a over rated person for president as your name doesn't mean people didn't listen to you. So get that no one payed attention to the black man bs out of here. This is not the place for it.... Hell now every time i don't get my way i am gonna run around and cry because i am white. Hey guys i want zombies to have alot more knock back but if it doesn't get done i am blaming it on the fact that i am white. Yes you heard me it is because i am white if it didn't get done. Lame as hell, but kudos for tryin that card...

yea regulating ledges is annoying and we've been needing that tpmenu bad. that tpmenu rly saves all the admins a lot of trouble.
!zteleing away... sure it makes us look whiney but its a bitch move nonetheless.
box room in crazycity: who said it was illegal in the first place? cuuzz i agree with kitty when she says that it should be legal. all u have to do is just jump in and get the fools. all these mini-rules kinda take away the good spots.

tpmenu was a life saver but we are unable to use it because activating "est" which allows tpmenu to work makes a hole in the server to allow crashing. I'll look into a related addon that we can use but as of now it is still a no-go unless really needed.

We've tried this about a year ago and it went nowhere because no one checks it. It also requires alot of work to get it going. I doubt it would benifit the server at all other then the admins knowing what has be declared illegal.

Editing the maps - No go because we have 60~ maps atm and we don't want people having to download our version of the map. I would be up to it if we were going to though

As to the popup - the MOTD would be the only way I know of to make people accept it. Ill look into another version for that though

Custom message - the adverts can be played with but people rarely look at them that i've noticed

Ledges - Ill second the move to ban Auto snipers again. I do think they are cheap aswell.

Lowering the knockback would hurt everyone. It would make "Red Crates" near impossible to hold and it would exchange move everyone to crouch spots which with your details would make it impossible to hold.

If I recall correctly, there is a plugin over at matties forum.
Which kicks any player who does not accept the rules of the server.

*edit*

There you go, I found it.

http://addons.eventscripts.com/addons/view/es_readrules

Es tools are the reason we don't have tpmenu

Can't use this unless we can find one w/o es tools or we just install es tools bring back tpmenu and add this

Right, you got the metamod version of zombiemod running eh?
Oh well, you could take a look in their forums. But I am not sure if they got one that does not require es tools.

but couldnt we do something like kitty said maybe pop out another screen after they join a team. in that screen we could put maybe the images of the illegal spots for the map currently being played and they would have to agree (press a key) to be able to play. i think people would notice that. josh u said its a lot or work but i dont mind doing it. u just have to give me an idea on how to start and the best way to do it.

i agree with kitty about the ztele rule i think u have to be smart enough to actually do that in a situation under pressure and zombies can actually follow the humans by zteleing too, another point is that humans dont have too much hope of getting alive from a spawn point generally there are zombies everywhere and when i see people zteleing they end up dying anyways(i dont know if u guys can control that certain binded keys dont work in the server like if the have ztele binded to some key and they press it it wouldnt work so they would have to actually type it which adds pressure )

and if ppl ignore the pics, we can be like "ohp, you had fair warning. too bad. bye! "

Where would I find the script for a image to pop up depending on the map? just wondering..

For !ztele, some maps have up to 8 different spawn areas, I also do not have !ztele bound to a key. The reason it is illegal right now is the fact that if a zombie works the entire round to get someone and then when they are about to get them they !ztele. How do you think they feel when someone who wasn't even trying gets the kill?
I do think if we made it legal more people would !ztele and get away successfully if they go in a group which I think they would.

while we're on the subject, when did the normal zombs and the fat zombz get super low knockback?

i remember when ANY zombie could be destroyed with an mp5 but in the server last night one zombie. ONE regular killed me.

oh well, at least ledges shouldn't be a problem now, right? a train of 3 zombies with low knockback can easily destroy an encampment

p.s. <_<

I've trIed spell check.
(Joke, don't get pissed)

Agree, it's the worst thing ever. ban that andthe auto shotgun.
the auto shotgun is just annoying, noobs buy it thinking they'll own all the zombies all "1337 style", but end up screwing you over.(either not helping the fire wall or breaking the cade on accident with it.)
giving a noob an auto sniper/shotgun is like giving me a boner, you'll regret it because it fucks you.

:lol: that's funny, am I the only one who noticed that mostly everyone who is active in pF is an admin?
really, we have regs. on the server, but nearly every tagged pF person who joins rocks the [pf].
But yeah,take the ledge rule out, It just seems to bother the admins when ever they have to enforce the rules.