Interesting Topic

Should we allow cheap spots (1 way in spots where once you in its impossible to die like Tube, Vent, Under Pipes and Stair camping, Cheap ass garage where you gotta duck to get in = impossible and flat out cheap) Or should we all enforce the rules which me at least enforce everytime im around and make sure other admins are also enforcing it?

Examples:

Hospital_Remix: Camping Under the Pipes on 1st Floor.
Wintercomplex: Camping Inside The Concrete Tubes.
Supermarket: 1 Way Only Vents.
Little City: Camping Under The Stairs.
Aftermatch: Camping Inside The Garage Where The Only Way In is Ducking Under This Garage Door.

Spots like that on different maps also.. Just so yall get the idea if you didnt before ^^


We gotta pick a side because having 1 admin saying its ok and another not allowing gets players frustrated and generates fights between players / admins, players /players and also admins / admins. We shouldnt be having this fights and this issue. Lets decide the path for glory. Lets hear the opinions.

Exactly... But also.. We gotta make sure if we decide to stick with enforcing the rules like i always do... All the other admins enforce just as much and follow the same pattern. So we dont have conflicts / stupid fights and get players frustrated. Because they will know where they are suppose to really camp having everybody enforcing the same rules and keeping the flow going the same way.

A server with unlimited ammo shouldn't allow, tube campers of any kind. 1. Nearly impossible for zombies to get in one way spot, cause of spraying nubs. 2. It's noob , 3. It's just plain cheap.
Solution : Throw a teleporter in the way.

I say no to those spots, sure they can get you lots of kills but the server begins to clear out when ppl camp in those spots every round. i admit i used then once and a while cuz its realy hard to get to places without being killed but i like the chalenge of getting somewhere better, there like pitstops to me. but lets not let it happen anymore. ill stop using them and start enforcing the nono rule for those spots.

I think areas that are definite No Go:


Tube Camping, just plain impossible.

Vent Camping, To Include Stand Up Vents


I think as of this point everything else should be allowed.

I think for tubes/vents/under-stairs it's different for every map, but overall should be restricted because most of them are impossible to get into no matter how many zombies try.

For little city for example, the parking garage should be restricted because the even if the vents were clogged up with 30 zombies and 1 guy defending it would still be impossible. The pipes at the hospital will bring up the most controversy I think with admins because with enough zombies iv seen 5 or less people been turned down there.

Thats what i always do pala ^^

But also every admin enforcing the same rules its the key for success.

My examples include that spot also in it. 1 way in and impossible with 1 guy shooting on unli ammo.

i can hold the pipes by myself on hospital with the entire map as zombies. Done it before several times.

Gotta just Enforce like i do. No camping in such spots as my examples period. Works the best and keeps the game fun and challenging. Thats the point oO

^^ That is my exact approach in these situations. Just put a teleporter there and take the cheap spot out of play.

It seems Umbrella beat me to it.

Mr Mer Ftw! ^^

I agree to an extent. Yes, there are some spots such as vents and pipes that should be blocked off. However, areas like the garage that you need to crouch in to, they have ways of getting through. Some spots just take a little bit of thinking to get in to.

-Reaper

Is there a way to add permanent teleport spots to a map?

And completely for no cheap spots rule.

i think vent camping and tube camping of any time= no
and any place that requires a long crouch to get in should not be allowed either. it may not be in a tube or vent but its still fucking cheap like how umbrella states the pipes in hospital remix. Crouching makes the zombie fly unbelievably fast BACKWARDS which prevents any zombie from getting anywhere near someone doing a crouch camp.

The Garage on LittleCity is just as cheap as any vent / tube / pipe camping. So you shouldnt allow that in any way.

every admin has to have tpmenu where it makes much easier to enforce the rules.

God dammit.

I just thought of a perfect idea.

We should modify all of the maps on the server that contain vents, stairs, etc. We modified certain maps such as zm_omi_facility_pf, zm_lila_panic_pf, etc. You know what we did to them? In omi facility, we made a trap. If you go into the vent, theres a huge pit, and a big invisible hole in the vent. Basically if you go in the vent you fall into the pit. We should do that for every map on the server that contains a vent. Hopefully the players will then learn their lesson.

Problem solved?

Sure thing Cam,

actually that one map with the drop vent they got smart and didn't back up all the way. So we just need to block them off completely.