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Discussion in Admin Abuse started by wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008

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  1. wrecker1
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    Im gonna make the story short, I had a porn spray, furry topless, nothing under the belt, and he didn't like it.

    First off, there has been nothing on the rules about it, the only porn spray rule is nothing under the belt, and he didn't like it. I told him the exact same thing.

    Its not like its the gay porn I wanna spray, right?

    Anyways, I'm sick of this, he was the first admin to disagree with it, ive had an admin say gross but said I can spray it, and I'm just tired of people overpowering me cause they don't like something. If you don't like it, put it in the rules, end of story.
    wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008
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  2. OnceHipJR
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    Sorry Kyle, but I completely agree with Rawr. It was completely uncalled for. He did nothing wrong. It was not worth a ban.
    OnceHipJR, Jun 15, 2008
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  3. ck27
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    Kyle we agreed on if it doesn't show anything below the belt its allowed. So no matter how gross and disgusting it is, we are going to have to allow it.
    ck27, Jun 15, 2008
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  4. Kyle
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    You've got to be kidding me. Spraying Porn is against the rules, I'm not sure what newer revisions have been made, But as far as I'm concern'd along with more than half of the admin team who has been for quite a while, Spraying porn is a kickable offense.

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    [b][color="#006400"]To scroll down on the motd to read the rules please use the arrow keys on your keyboard[/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Do Not Destroy / Ruin Barricades That are already made[/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]No Camping in Unfair Spots (Tubes, Pipes, Vents, Under Stairs, Back of Trucks with the Unmovable Boxes etc)[/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]No Blocking/Inhibiting the access of parts of the maps[/color] [/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Do Not Glitch Inside Walls, Soda Machines, Rocks etc[/color] [/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Do not Hack On the Server by Any Means at All![/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]No Racism / Harassing and Excessive Swearing on the Server[/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Do not Overuse/Spam the Server through Chat or Mic[/color][/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]No Excessively Revealing/Gay/Obscene sprays[/color] [/b]
    This has been revised by Umbrella and CK quite a bit, But still.


    I'm not sure about anyone else but aren't admins supposed to set an example for other admins and players to follow and or represent the server?


    Anyways, I asked you to change your spray, I was told to "Deal with it" because John had approved it.

    If anyone else disagrees and thinks I'm out of line, post in here.

    Thanks,
    Kyle.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  5. Kyle
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    Sorry for double posting but...
    What the F... is going on.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  6. wrecker1
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    First off, I never knew you, and the 1 day that you come in we get into an argument, its that simple. I was flat out told not under the belt, until you come in.

    Second, Your right, I'm gonna listen to someone (aka ck, cam, john) that I know more, than someone i've never even heard of except on the forums. If you banned me for doing something that was against the rules, I would understand, but when I was banned for something that was allowed, thats when I Get downright pissed.

    Leave me banned, PF has brought me nothing but trouble.
    wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008
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  7. OnceHipJR
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    There was no warning the first time, all it said was Kicked and banned.

    I unbanned rawr, and then there was a warning, and then he was kicked and banned.

    If we were to ban for all porn sprays, the server would be half-empty.

    The current standing on porn sprays is that it's alright if it doesn't show anything below the belt.
    OnceHipJR, Jun 15, 2008
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  8. Secprotocol
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    I give up. I'm going to join Aceros.
    Secprotocol, Jun 15, 2008
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  9. Kyle
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    John the server is full of children... Out of anyone you should know that.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  10. wrecker1
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    Its a rated M game.
    wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008
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  11. OnceHipJR
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    It doesn't matter anywhere you go, any server you go to. You will see porn. I even spray porn.

    Me and Dems used to trade porn sprays when we were bored.

    We used to battle each other with naming a celebrity, and then logging back onto the server with a naked picture of the celebrity.
    OnceHipJR, Jun 15, 2008
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  12. Kyle
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    Ill Join you as well, All these new admins are killing the server. They have all been moved up to Lead Server admin and or Full admin (The only ones who I see that accually have common sense are Dani, Rob, Alex, Matt, Thomas, Rodog (Sorry I didn't catch your real name), And of course the older Admin Crew that was here when I started + Retslag and a few others around that time), However most have no common sense what so ever, Including our newly appointed Administrator (No Its not Retslag or Mer). I'm done, This is complete BS. Cam, Sauce Helmet (If you still check the forums), I'm not sure what to say besides good luck. When it is possible, Close down the P4A plan and keep it closed to prevent this from happening once more.


    It has been a pleasure,
    Kyle.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  13. Mer
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    I'm sorry to hear that this incident escalated out of control.

    I think it is because of the loose description of the "no porn spray" rule, together with how it has evolved over time, that has led to different interpretations and misunderstandings. I have seen Slayth ingame doing a fine job of adminning the server. While on there, he did have a spray which I felt was inappropriate. I asked him to change it and he did promptly. Done and done.

    Unfortunately, it seems some misunderstanding has led to friction between some fellow admins and has led to this incident... which I feel never needed to happen. It appears that we need to clarify the rule on what sprays are appropriate and which are not.

    Certainly, if someone finds your spray inappropriate or offensive, the easiest solution is to not use while they are in the server. If many people start complaining that your spray is offensive, then it is probably best to change it promptly.
    Mer, Jun 15, 2008
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  14. OnceHipJR
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    You could have just said John. =\
    OnceHipJR, Jun 15, 2008
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  15. wrecker1
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    I havent sprayed that spray since that day xP its still sitting in my recycling bin
    wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008
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  16. ck27
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    I thought our policy was pretty much nothing below the belt? We all agreed on that and the new admins know that? So I dont know how it is still a issue. its not like porn sprays dont get sprayed over by 20 other sprays anyways.
    ck27, Jun 15, 2008
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  17. Kyle
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    Its Bull shit John, You have to admit it... Look at all the Admins that have been here longer than me, And you, And there active as well. They havent gotten moved up just because they're not in Ventrilo? Thats stupid, Look at =) or even Slayth... The only reason that they are or were here was because they got in Ventrilo.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  18. OnceHipJR
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    All of this because you banned someone that didn't do something wrong?

    Or even if he did do something wrong in your eyes, he and all the other admins were told something completely different.

    Wow.

    This seriously came out of nowhere.
    OnceHipJR, Jun 15, 2008
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  19. Kyle
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    John, Shut the fuck up. Its not constructive, Instead your firing cheap shots at me just because no one tells me anything anymore. Have the rules changed about Porn? Apparently they have. Is it posted anywhere on the forums which is where I am supposed to rely on information? It is not.


    Also, Don't act all innocent, your the sole one who inspired this thread. I was going by the rules that I was told when I started and Has not Changed.


    Thanks,
    Kyle.
    Kyle, Jun 15, 2008
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  20. wrecker1
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    John had nothing to do with my influence to make this thread.
    wrecker1, Jun 15, 2008
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