MightyMouse Admin Abuse (mute, kick and ban)

While in the server today, this guy (MightyMouse) randomly muted me without any warning or justification in regard to what I was doing wrong. Consequently, I opened chat and asked why he muted me without cause or any sort of preliminary notification. He neither answered nor unmuted me. Meanwhile, a guy by the name of h.o.t.h.s. is mic spamming his ass off (holding his mic up to his speakers and playing music incessantly). To my surprise, Mightymouse muted me instead of the mic spammer. After several minutes of being muted and simultaneously having to listen to a REAL mic spammer, I told Mightymouse he was an idiot in chat and that he shouldn't be an admin. He kicked then banned me. Ultimately, I was banned for telling an admin like it is when he did something wrong. Instead of admitting it, however, he simply banned me.

In digression, it occurs to me that, during the course of the past couple of years, this community has become increasingly notorious for this kind of behavior among its admins. I've played here off an on for years, and I can't help but notice the increase in abuse. I attribute it mostly to children on power trips. Nonetheless, it's particularly annoying when legit players are punished and rule breakers simply are not.

If the admin who reads this would like corroboration for my side of the story, just ask Peter (the admin), JAH Dillinger, or TheImmortal. Those are all veteran players of PF who watched this transpire.

Regards,

BlakOut

Instead of taking the proper steps, you chose to disrespect the admin. Yes it can be frustrating when you're punished for what seems like no reason, but retaliating like you did only makes the situation worse for yourself. As for what MIGHTYMOOSE did, it will be looked in to once he shares his side of the events.

I muted you for yelling, spamming, and being generally annoying on the mic. You may think it's cute and funny but most people don't. I constantly said "stop yelling into the mic" it would stop and then it would continue. I kicked you for being disrespectful and banned you 1hr for the same. You conveniently left out all the garbage you said over the mic to me to get me to ban you. You were warned, muted, kicked, then banned for 1hr. I even unbanned you early on the condition that you "play nice" when Dillenger said you asked him to ask me.

It's real easy, follow the rules and everyone gets along. Being here for many years does not entitle you to special privileges. You have just as much right as the person who just started playing 10 mins ago.

I was playing on the server at that time and I would agree that player BlackOut disrespected the admin. I recall that player BlackOut was warned over the microphone.

If that's the case, then MIGHTYMOOSE was in the wrong as well. Admins are required to issues warnings through chat, not over the mic. Otherwise it won't show in the logs and they have nothing to back up their claims if they say they did warn the player before punishing them.

shitty rule IMO, i did not see any disrespect there, its all about interpretation, i mean, obviously he warned on mic and this guy didn't hear him leaving him to believe that he was muted for no reason, which would piss anyone off. and NOBODY will come on the forum to dispute an action while its taking place on the server, its just in the moment and the admin who muted you is right there, i think admins need to have a little more tolerance and grow the fuck up. seriously.

Black Out was runnin his mouth the whole time he was in there. In my opinion Moose was justified in his actions. Toxic when was the last time you played in the Zombiemod servers? If someone called you a "fucking moron" after running his mouth the whole time he was in the game I don't think you would have been that nice either. Some admins on here do abuse but moose was in the right. Thats my opinion.

Taz

I just wanted to acknowledge Reapers comment on using the text chat for documenting disciplne on the players. It makes it easier for the administators to defend us admins when a player complains. :blink:

Taz

I do apologize for that. I have hot keys set up for cade breaking and for racism. I will set one up for Mic spamming so it definitely won't happen again in the future.

Toxic, it's not about growing up and showing more tolerance. It's about doing your job. I think a lot of the admins that play daily show a lot of tolerance in trying to keep it fun with the players and enforcing the rules.

I saw this in Femme's closing and I think Colton sums it up very well:

As a matter of record, I was warned neither by chat nor by voice. I was simply muted randomly. In regard to Moose's comment, I think we both know I wasn't doing any "yelling" at all. I was talking and on one or two occasions sang a lyric of a song over the mic, but never yelled. "Generally annoying" seems to me to be a fundamentally subjective term. Prior to you coming into the server, I had been playing for several hours with admins and players alike. During that tenure, nobody said I was being annoying at all. One thing is certain: I wasn't mic spamming, and muting me was not warranted.

As you can see from the chat log, I was muted then immediately went crazy in chat because the admin muted me INSTEAD of the guy who was legitimately spamming music over the mic. According to the record, he muted the guy directly after banning me.

My formal request and suggestion is that you do not mute, kick and/or ban players without making it explicit to them that they are breaking the rules. If you think I am being "generally annoying," you don't need to think of yourself as an admin under those circumstances. You go from being a player to the admin at the point I break a rule. When you muted me, I had broken no rules. When I called you a moron, it was because you had muted me for no reason. When you banned me, it was because I came back into the server and answered your question "Am I still a moron?" with "You are still one for muting me without cause."

As I mentioned initially, this community has too many admins who are on power trips and are chomping at the bit to use their powers. The next time a player is being "generally annoying" in your opinion, but nobody else in the server has made it clear that they think the individual is being "generally annoying," I suggest you act as a PLAYER and PLAYER MUTE the individual, not as an ADMIN and MUTE, KICK and BAN the individual.

Thanks,

BlakOut

I agree with Taz

Also, Moose, I would like to understand how it was that I "left out all of the trash" that I talked to you over the mic. Do you mean I talked trash to you prior to you muting me? If you do mean that, you're simply lying. If you're stating that I talked trash to you on the mic AFTER you muted me, I'd love to understand how that's possible. As you can see from the chat log, I was confined to chat after you muted me, and I responded through that medium.

Second, I'd like you to explain which "special privileges" I appealed to. I came here to state that you wrongfully muted, kicked and banned me. I said that, having played here for years, I have noticed more and more admin abuse. I didn't say that because I've played here for years I deserve any special rights. Perhaps you should take a long at my original post again. I'm well aware that I am subject to the same rules as a brand new player. That's why I'm complaining about your abuse. You punished me in spite of the rules.

Telling you that you're a moron for abusing admin does not constitute "trolling."

Wasn't in game at time and don't know how it went down but i do have something to add on your comment reap about using chat for proof. You can use chat and it shows what you said but, nothing on what the player said nor did at all. IMO the logs in that sense can work for you or against you depending on how you play them out. Just sayin that people have sound on 99 percent of the time playin to hear what is going on around them and not hearing a warning over mic is a excuse. Especially if it has been said more than one time. Hell how many people read the chat at all times while they are busy doing other things?

Yes, players mics don't show in the logs. But that doesn't excuse the fact that admins are required to use chat to back up their warnings. As you said, it can work for or against you. If you don't have a warning shown in chat, then it could just look like you're using commands on a player for no reason. You can still use the mic to warn, as long as you are also using chat to do so.

All my point was really makin is the logs are very limited based on what happens in game with voice chat and everything else. Although that is all we can really use sadly as back up...

Being insulting to an admin is "trolling." Regardless if you feel you have reason or not. If an admin, in your opinion, is abusing, report it here. Do not rant on the server, all that does is get you removed off the server for a time. In the future, just screenshot the abuse, make a demo, whatever you feel appropiate, and report it here. Getting into the face of an admin on the server will never end well.